36-1 how to mount it??
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36-1 how to mount it??
Has anybody fitted a 36-1 0r 60-2 timing wheel on the front of a Gems serp engine, The onlt reason I ask is I have a steel flywheel and this doas not have the facillity to run the flywheel mounted ring, I know I could do it but it would be a bit of a pain, plus I would then need to get the flywheel re ballanced,
I can see me making a steel top hat that bolts to the bottom pulley/ballencer and fixed by the crank bolt, and located by the 2 withdrawl bolt holes, then machine the top hat to suit whatever timing wheel I decide to use, or possibly machine a flat on the back of the ballencer hub, and bolt thru there, TBH I think I would prefer it behind the pulley so its out of the way of the rad and fingers, but would the ballencer be OK to machine on the back as I would locate the wheel on a spigot, so I would introduce a stress riser into the ballencer,
I can see me making a steel top hat that bolts to the bottom pulley/ballencer and fixed by the crank bolt, and located by the 2 withdrawl bolt holes, then machine the top hat to suit whatever timing wheel I decide to use, or possibly machine a flat on the back of the ballencer hub, and bolt thru there, TBH I think I would prefer it behind the pulley so its out of the way of the rad and fingers, but would the ballencer be OK to machine on the back as I would locate the wheel on a spigot, so I would introduce a stress riser into the ballencer,
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I've mounted the thin ford 36-1 steel wheel in a serp grif 500 with good success:

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Cheers Elliot, thats sort of how I envisaged it, My ballancer is slightly different, its radiused at the back and only two threaded holes that I assume are for a puller/removal tool, I dont think it will be a problem, just need to find a wheel to suit my needs, I like the one Tony has with the enlongated slots so its easier to set up
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got mine from www.triggerwheels.com mate.
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
Forged 4.8 V8 kitted out with the dogs Cajones of parts.

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There are several dxf files in http://tvr.dspen.com/tw/ if you want to get one cut.
The two piece ones are not suitable for laser or water jet cutting BTW.
tw_RV8_36-1_1p.dxf is probably the one you want most of the others were playing with split 2 piece wheels (so you dont have to take the pulleys off) and some 60-2 wheels as well. I have a script to generate the dxf files in any size geo you want if needed, its only perl stuff.
The two piece ones are not suitable for laser or water jet cutting BTW.
tw_RV8_36-1_1p.dxf is probably the one you want most of the others were playing with split 2 piece wheels (so you dont have to take the pulleys off) and some 60-2 wheels as well. I have a script to generate the dxf files in any size geo you want if needed, its only perl stuff.
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Elliot, I will try and get a photo tomorrow, its my wedding aniversary today, so I am doing as I am told!!!!!-- NO GARAGE
Spend, do you get the wheels cut yourself??? I think a 60-2 would be preferable, its what I use at the moment, but I think I need to go with a bigger dia than I have at the moment so it sits proud of the ballancer ring, or use a folded sheet one like Elliots
Spend, do you get the wheels cut yourself??? I think a 60-2 would be preferable, its what I use at the moment, but I think I need to go with a bigger dia than I have at the moment so it sits proud of the ballancer ring, or use a folded sheet one like Elliots
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Never mind, Ian. It's only 3 days a year, eh!ian.stewart wrote:Elliot, I will try and get a photo tmorrow, its my wedding anaversary today, so I am doing as I am told!!!!!-- NO GARAGE
Spend, do you get the wheels cut yourself??? I think a 60-2 would be preferable, its what I use at the moment, but I think I need to go with a bigger dia than I have at the moment so it sits proud of the ballencer ring, or use a folded sheet one like Elliots
Wedding aniversary
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Nah, 2 days, christmas day is fair game, just to get away from the mother in law,JC. wrote:Never mind, Ian. It's only 3 days a year, eh!ian.stewart wrote:Elliot, I will try and get a photo tmorrow, its my wedding anaversary today, so I am doing as I am told!!!!!-- NO GARAGE
Spend, do you get the wheels cut yourself??? I think a 60-2 would be preferable, its what I use at the moment, but I think I need to go with a bigger dia than I have at the moment so it sits proud of the ballencer ring, or use a folded sheet one like Elliots
Wedding aniversary
Christmas day
Wifes B'day.
All other days are fair game!!!

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WHY are there so many IANS on this site???????
12.604 with an old boiler of a RV8 and no gas
WHY are there so many IANS on this site???????
I have a script to draw anything you want, I just feed it diameters ... and away it goes. You can take / mail the dxf file to anyone with facilities, should only cost @£20 including materials. Water jet is fine for one piece wheels, you just need to file out the holes (they dont cut exactly square you need wire erosion for that?). One of the drawings has spec of steel, some of them are just the cutting pattern. They were ordered for cutting instructions IIRC.
PM me if you want something different generating, its no problem.
PM me if you want something different generating, its no problem.
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All any trigger disc needs is to be centralised and true...and with the missing tooth at a suitable place where you can mount a sensor and relate to TDC.
And if you have a lathe, mounting should be fairly easy.
Just machine the trigger wheel as needed to locate onto any round portion of the front pulley, then stick a couple of tack welds to hold it in place.
Ive never had a problem.
And if you have a lathe, mounting should be fairly easy.
Just machine the trigger wheel as needed to locate onto any round portion of the front pulley, then stick a couple of tack welds to hold it in place.
Ive never had a problem.
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Trigger wheel options
I remember TVRLeigh posted a thread about a pretty simple method of mounting a trigger wheel on a serpentine balancer.
I think this is the thread.
http://www.v8forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... gger#22351
I think this is the thread.
http://www.v8forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... gger#22351
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