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Starter motors again :-(

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Have now come across another problem with the range rover 1.4KW starter,
it sits too close to the steering shaft, and the coupling hits the solenoid and tries pushing it towards the engine while going lock to lock

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i dont want to go back to a stock SD1 starter with the solenoid under neath,
do any of the rover v8 engines use a solenoid under the starter as per sd1 BUT 1.4kw?

we are hoping when we lift the gearbox today it may give us a bit more clearance, and we are also looking at spacing the steering rack off the crossmember by 5mm to give a bit more clearance from the shaft to solenoid,


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The starter (there were two types) for the P6B has the solenoid underneath, while all the starters for the 4 wheel drives have the solenoids on the side.

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yes mate correct,
there was rumours that the sherpa (ldv) v8 had a 1.4kw starter BUT with a solenoid underneath,
never ever found out if this was true or not yet,
asked at a few motor factors, they were not sure,
BUT if i ordered one i had to buy it as its a special order and can't be sent back a lot of money to risk getting a possible wrong starter (£150)
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Im using one of these.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MG-STARTER-MOTOR- ... 7C294%3A50

The original starter wouldnt turn over my 4.6 properly with 10.8:1 CR
They are lightweight too.
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where does the solenoid sit when fitted mate?
have you any pics of it installed please?
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Post by mgbloke »

The solonoid is below and has to be on the MGB as space is very tight.
Being a gear reduction starter I can use a tiny red top 20 battery which turns the engine over much faster than the original.
Sorry no pics at the moment.
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cheers mate,
funds allowing after payday im going to order one.
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does the drive gear still throw out as per old style starters mate?
eg. pre engaged or engaged?

asked for some end shots of the starter.
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Starter ordered,
Just spoke to Neil on the phone at scparts,
will be here Friday,
1.5kw gear reduction starter, with solenoid underneath, :wink:

now need to tell the mrs i spent nearly another £200 of the holiday money oooooooooooops
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now need to tell the mrs i spent nearly another £200 of the holiday money oooooooooooops
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Playin with fire there m8, u must have big shoes is all i can say :lol:
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she aint killed me yet
notice i said yet

and the starter never arrived :x
moneys gone out on the credit card but no delivery they are going to chase the courier monday (unless they forgot to send it and covering up)
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Post by Eliot »

The gear reduction one for the chevy is clockable, i.e. you have several options of where you want the solenoid to end up. You may find yours is similar.
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demo2 wrote:now need to tell the mrs i spent nearly another £200 of the holiday money oooooooooooops
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cheers for that eliot,
i will check as soon as it gets here,

Marki dont give her ideas FFS mate :lol:
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well i dont think theses guys will be getting my bussiness ever again,
still no starter i ordered it last tuesday and was told will be delivered last friday then when i called friday i was told saturday then when it never arrived saturday i was told today, and yup nowt so far, (not surprised)
when i asked for the parcel number etc so i can track it i on the city link web site i get told sorry no one in dispatch is available to give you the parcel details.
i get this every time i call though,
If no joy tomorrow they can stick my order and return my money that they have already taken from my credit card and i will go else where.

not happy not happy at all with them.
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
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Forged 4.8 V8 kitted out with the dogs Cajones of parts. :D
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