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Need a bit of advice,
standing start acceleration perfect up through the gears without missing a beat,
BUT if you cruise then go WOT the car takes off then holds back a bit then goes again as if it has a power band,
tried it at different fuel pressures etc and makes no difference,
and at different RPM's going Wot and does the same every time,
any ideas,
took my daughters boyfriend out today and he said its like when the VTEC cuts in on a Honda etc,
standing start acceleration perfect up through the gears without missing a beat,
BUT if you cruise then go WOT the car takes off then holds back a bit then goes again as if it has a power band,
tried it at different fuel pressures etc and makes no difference,
and at different RPM's going Wot and does the same every time,
any ideas,
took my daughters boyfriend out today and he said its like when the VTEC cuts in on a Honda etc,
Last edited by Coops on Mon May 05, 2014 3:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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What do your afr and boost logs say when this happens??
Sounds like it may be a timing issue??
Sounds like it may be a timing issue??
Perry Stephenson
MGB GT + Rover V8
9.62 @ 137.37mph
Now looking for 8 seconds with a SBC engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVscbPHgue0&list=UUqIlXfSAoiZ--GyG4tfRrjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg3avnsNKrc&index=2&list=FLqIlXfSAoiZ--GyG4tfRrjw
MGB GT + Rover V8
9.62 @ 137.37mph
Now looking for 8 seconds with a SBC engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVscbPHgue0&list=UUqIlXfSAoiZ--GyG4tfRrjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg3avnsNKrc&index=2&list=FLqIlXfSAoiZ--GyG4tfRrjw
will get her out tomorrow and do another run,
didn't have the lappy with me today,
didn't have the lappy with me today,
Regards Tony C (COOPS)

MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
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I'm off. Out in the car in a bit so will get a log
Regards Tony C (COOPS)

MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
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More than likely a fuelling issue.
it' as easy to give them too much accel enrichment as it is too little.
If you can turn accel enrichment off, or all to zero you should be able to get it fairly decent via the main mapping alone, other than for very sudden changes.
( will be worst at lower rpm's )
After that feels decent, then you can start adding fuel via accel enrichment to smooth things out.
Ignore AFR's for the most part as you can end up chasing your tail. Start from zero, then work up.
Above 3-4000rpm very very little should be needed
it' as easy to give them too much accel enrichment as it is too little.
If you can turn accel enrichment off, or all to zero you should be able to get it fairly decent via the main mapping alone, other than for very sudden changes.
( will be worst at lower rpm's )
After that feels decent, then you can start adding fuel via accel enrichment to smooth things out.
Ignore AFR's for the most part as you can end up chasing your tail. Start from zero, then work up.
Above 3-4000rpm very very little should be needed
9.85 @ 144.75mph
202mph standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWRCDtiTQ0
202mph standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWRCDtiTQ0
Didn't get a log done today as laptop said no
Will try later this week
Will try later this week
Regards Tony C (COOPS)

MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
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just did a run up the road,
and looking at the log when on WOT the spark advance climbs then drops off to 7 then rises again,
any ideas?
and looking at the log when on WOT the spark advance climbs then drops off to 7 then rises again,
any ideas?
Regards Tony C (COOPS)

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Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
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whats the best site to store files on
Regards Tony C (COOPS)

MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
Forged 4.8 V8 kitted out with the dogs Cajones of parts.
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
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Regards Tony C (COOPS)

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Forged 4.8 V8 kitted out with the dogs Cajones of parts.
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MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
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mmm its detecting knock I think if im reading the datalog correctly,
never done it before it then clears and goes ok
ignition goes from 15.3 then drops off to 7 for a bit then goes back to 15.3
never done it before it then clears and goes ok
ignition goes from 15.3 then drops off to 7 for a bit then goes back to 15.3
Regards Tony C (COOPS)

MS2 V3.57 Ecu mapable efi and wasted spark ignition.
Procharger D1SC supercharger and Cossie RS500 Intercooler @ 14psi of Boost. 416 RWHP, (boost leak)
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It's not a case of detecting knock.
It may be knock, it maybe noise. You'll need to manually calibrate the knock sensor input/thresholds so that it it's operation is correct
But yes it does look like knock control is pulling timing.
The fact it's relatively low boost, and only around 15deg of timing.
I really doubt there is any detonation at all. Even if you were very high compression, I'd say it would still be safe with such low timing.
Havent looked at the actual map as dont have any MS software on my computer. But you could be running a lot more timing there, and it will perform a lot better for it.
Mixtures probably ok for low boost, but I'd maybe like a little more fuel in there.
if you have a means of logging every time you drive, it really is worth doing. Logging is such a valuable tool !
It may be knock, it maybe noise. You'll need to manually calibrate the knock sensor input/thresholds so that it it's operation is correct
But yes it does look like knock control is pulling timing.
The fact it's relatively low boost, and only around 15deg of timing.
I really doubt there is any detonation at all. Even if you were very high compression, I'd say it would still be safe with such low timing.
Havent looked at the actual map as dont have any MS software on my computer. But you could be running a lot more timing there, and it will perform a lot better for it.
Mixtures probably ok for low boost, but I'd maybe like a little more fuel in there.
if you have a means of logging every time you drive, it really is worth doing. Logging is such a valuable tool !
9.85 @ 144.75mph
202mph standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWRCDtiTQ0
202mph standing mile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgWRCDtiTQ0