70's Kit car Dutton B+

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:30 pm

The build is taking longer than anticipated - I bought the car in 2004 but in my defence I have had one or two other projects come along in the mean time.

Early days it looked quite presentable

Was bought very cheap as the engine was reported blown - turns out it had a bout 2 1/2 gallons of oil in it and 7 blowing exhaust gaskets due to the naff headers.

Engine is a bit of an odd one - its a very late P6 9.25CR after the 10.5's and before the SD1 9.35's - it has SD1 heads block huggers and a list 8007 390 - five speed LT77 and MK1 Capri 1 3.09 axle.Wheels are ultra lite 3 piece Compomotive 14x9.5 rear and 14 x 8 front

But I didn't like some aspects of the build so rather than drive it I took it apart.

And all was not as it should be so I kept going after welding in a few extra bits of metal because there was a definate lack if chassis.

And so it went on

And on

And now at the stage of starting to put it all back together again.

And hopefully in the next couple of months it will be back rolling under its own steam and a lot healthier into the bargain - then the tuning begins

Cheers

Andrew

Alley Kat · Post by **Alley Kat** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:58 pm

Nice one, thanks for the pics and keep 'em coming

Wee_chris · Post by **Wee_chris** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:48 am

One day you may be big enough to drive it and not need a dummy.

Only joking.

Looking good, want to come do some chassis stengthing for me?

chodjinn · Post by **chodjinn** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:22 am

Wow those wheels are mint! That thing will shift when you get it running. Keep us updated!

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:13 am

Thanks for the nice comments guy's

Spittie_v8 wrote:
Looking good, want to come do some chassis stengthing for me?

Bit far to drop over one Saturday with the welding gear I'd say

Andrew

Wee_chris · Post by **Wee_chris** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:11 am

A wee break in Edinburgh does not tempt you.

Welding during the day and beer and a dram in the evening.

Only joking mate, just impressed with your work.

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:37 am

This weekends work saw the front suspension wishbones completed and the suspension tacked on - just needs fully welding and tiding up to finish.

Rolling chassis planned for the end of the month.

And yes I ran out of M12 bolts but the 12mm dowl was just handy

Cheers

Andrew

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:03 am

Half a rolling chassis

Oops thats wide

maybe just the camera angle.

No thats definately a bit wider

But that will reduce by 3/4" each side when I remove the 2.0kg of Spacer/adapter bolted to each hub.

Stering rack extensions are the next fabrication that needs attention.

Andrew

Post by **katanaman** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:55 pm

What is the front suspension based on? I just noticed it has trunnions. I hate trunnions and have been looking for ages for suitable uprights for my Scim to convert it to double ball joints.

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:46 pm

The suspension is good old Triumph - Spitfire in this case with but with GT6 discs and it did have Princess 4 pots but they have been sold and I will be using stock 2 pots until I fit some alloy calipers.

The top ball joint is a Lada/Fiat item that Caterham use on their uprights (Triumph) to provide camber adjustment.

I don't have an issue with Trunnions on lightweight cars and as long as they are oil filled and not greased never had any problems with them.

If you are looking to convert why not consider the good old Ford Cortina 3/4/5 items - Austin Maxi or Cortina for the lower balljoint and Transit drag link for the upper same as the Westfields use.

Rolled it out today to fit a few bits onto it so that I can measure up for clearance to the Panhard rod - its gonna be tight.

Its coming along though even if its riding a bit high at the moment.

Andrew

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:55 pm

A good 12 months further on.

The car is not quite finished but its paneled and wired and now fitted with a Stock 3.9.

Its moving on to a new owner very soon as I replaced it last year with the Ginetta G27 and I need the garage cleared so I can get some much needed work done on it.

Cheers

Andrew

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mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Tue May 05, 2009 7:41 pm

Looking good Andrew. I just bought one of these with a 1600 Xflow engine. I pick it up next week.

Darkspeed · Post by **Darkspeed** » Tue May 05, 2009 9:37 pm

A B+ or one of the Phaetons?

I also have two really early B Type cars from 1972 - back to their component forms in a shed at the moment and giving serious consideration to having a big e-bay clear out.

They are good fun for the money - especially with a V8

even seen a Buick 455 in one.

If you need any assistance or info on yours let me know I have gathered quite a bit over the years

Andrew

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Fri May 08, 2009 7:00 pm

A phaeton I think.
Its in a sorry state, but I only paid the price of the tyres for it and I'll bring it home tomorrow evening.

I'm thinking that I can take the body off and tweak the chassis a bit. Then bung a spare V8 in it for some lightweight fun.

The wife seemed quite surprised when I told her why the trailer was rolled out this afternoon?

I'm sure I told her that I had bought this 2 weeks ago. Maybe I forgot

topcatcustom · Post by **topcatcustom** » Sat May 09, 2009 7:43 am

mgbv8 wrote: I'm sure I told her that I had bought this 2 weeks ago. Maybe I forgot

thats the excuse I use every time!!!