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Post by **Rossco** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:13 am

1988 Range Rover currently stripped to the chassis for a rebuild. Considering going the Dakar (aka Elliot) route.

In any event she's getting a Buick 455 and TH400 switch pitch auto.

Othe cars are:

Peugeot 406 diesel....eeeeeek

Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE.......hey it's a diesel but it does have a V8

leepop633 · Post by **leepop633** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:27 am

Any pics of the Rangie? You using it offroad or onroad only? That BB will sure sort your halfshafts out offroad, lol.

Ian Anderson · Post by **Ian Anderson** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:07 pm

Rossco

How big is the V8 Diesel in the Rangie?
Both CC and physical size?

Presume it is a low revver with gallons of torque or have they got them free revving?

Ian

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:22 am

3.6litres, 272BHP, 472lbft !!!

Chris.

Eliot · Post by **Eliot** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:40 am

Rossco wrote:1988 Range Rover currently stripped to the chassis for a rebuild. Considering going the Dakar (aka Elliot) route.

Does that mean I would loose my fastest / most powerful dakar in the world claim to fame...

Hmm...Cant have that...

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:27 am

I'm more interested in the V8 diesel in a GT40 replica

Now that would upset the GT40 club boys!
Mike

Ian Anderson · Post by **Ian Anderson** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:52 am

Mike

Iwas thinking the same thing!

But that torque!
It would kill the Renault Box!

Ian

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:08 pm

I rather think the 'lectrics that go along with the TDV8 make it nigh on impossible to use outside it's normal application.

Until some low volume car builder persuades JLR to do a 'standalone' version of the ECU. Which of course they must have for engine development, but how one gets hold of it...???

Chris.

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:18 pm

Ian
I think one of the GT40 kit companies do an upgrade kit for the renult box to take it to about 450 ft/lbs. Or you could always convert to a porsche jobbie, that would give you a 6th gear that might come in handy with that diesel!

Mike

Ian Anderson · Post by **Ian Anderson** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:24 pm

Or go the whole hog and get a ZFQ (Same mounting as the original racing ZF boxes but made by Quaife!)
£6500 plus VAT for the box

Then the Diesel engine

All the mods necessary - Probably see change out of £15k!

Ian

Post by **katanaman** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:47 pm

ChrisJC wrote:I rather think the 'lectrics that go along with the TDV8 make it nigh on impossible to use outside it's normal application.

Until some low volume car builder persuades JLR to do a 'standalone' version of the ECU. Which of course they must have for engine development, but how one gets hold of it...???

Chris.

Wondered this myself, in my case I was thinking about messing with my TDCI. Looking at it the only thing I cant see a way to control with say a VEMS is the variable turbo. Injectors are electric so all that is needed is sequential injection. Cam crank sensors are the norm and the TPS works off the peddle. It might be possible to do the turbo via PWM like the boost is controlled on normal turbos but to be honest I don't know enough about how the variable ones work to know either way. With a bit of messing with the software it should be possible. Given these engines aren't going to be a £250 cut out job anyway another £300-£400 on an ECU isn't going to be the end of the world.

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:08 am

The trouble is that getting an ECU to work with the engine is only 1/2 the battle. I would expect that one of the professional Bosch ones would do the job. However, it's getting it mapped. I'm sure JLR spent months on the dyno getting it just spot on. I would think it's pretty important getting it spot on, as it's a relatively small engine for a relatively large power output, so I expect there's some clever stuff going on to stop it self destructing.

Chris.

Post by **Rossco** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:15 pm

The TDV8 is unbelieveable. I was looking at the supercharged Sport but then drove the TDV8 and found that in real driving i.e. between 30-70 it's often quicker than the blown version.

It's no low rpm idler either and will rev surprisingly high for a diesel.

She'll be at the Pod for the Forum get together so if anyone wants a shot then just ask.

Elliot, I'm sure if I do go the Dakar route then you'll just add another 5 psi and a 200 shot of nitrous

Post by **Rossco** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:51 am

Just a quick update.

The Classic Rangie is still stripped to the chassis with no progress due to matrimonial discussions

The Range Rover Sport has now been remapped to 800nM of torque which makes it rather interesting.

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:38 am

Rossco wrote: The Range Rover Sport has now been remapped to 800nM of torque which makes it rather interesting.

800 nanoMeters of torque?, does it even move?

Chris.

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