Hi all,
I've just bought an engineless 1934 ford coupe but need a bit of advice from you guys. I have the chance to buy a 1991 Range Rover 3.5 V8 with carbs for £250, would this be a suitable engine do you think? I do not have a V5 so I assume I will need a SVA test so will emissions be a problem? If this engine is no use what would you lot suggest, a new crate engine for instance? I only need to potter around town so don't need massive horsepower but want that V8 roar. Sorry if my questions are dumb but we all need to start somewhere. Thanks, Wheelie.
help, which V8???
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The Original Tom
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£250 seems ok for a carbed engine to me. I bought a rodgered one for £130!
They're good engines, and will run no matter how f****d they are, but fuel consumption will increase!
Their only limitation is they're not very tuneable unless you spend rediculous money, chiefly due to crap head design. They're usually good for 200bhp+ for about £200 but after that it's ££££
To get an idea of the engine condition, get one of the rocker covers off. If it's a caramel brown then it's probably been well maintained, if it's blcak and sludgy leave it well alone!
If you can afford a crate engine a Chevy 350 would be tops! Very grunty as standard, 350bhp whithout breaking much of a sweat, or 500bhp+ if you have the cash.
In a 1934 vehicle emissions shouldn't be a problem. I put a 'bitsa' (1986 block) rover v8 in my 1989 landy, no SVA ('cos it's a rover engine) and it's subject to no emissions tests at all!
They're good engines, and will run no matter how f****d they are, but fuel consumption will increase!
Their only limitation is they're not very tuneable unless you spend rediculous money, chiefly due to crap head design. They're usually good for 200bhp+ for about £200 but after that it's ££££
To get an idea of the engine condition, get one of the rocker covers off. If it's a caramel brown then it's probably been well maintained, if it's blcak and sludgy leave it well alone!
If you can afford a crate engine a Chevy 350 would be tops! Very grunty as standard, 350bhp whithout breaking much of a sweat, or 500bhp+ if you have the cash.
In a 1934 vehicle emissions shouldn't be a problem. I put a 'bitsa' (1986 block) rover v8 in my 1989 landy, no SVA ('cos it's a rover engine) and it's subject to no emissions tests at all!
Rover 3.5 V8 landy - Completely rebuilt and purring... Now awaiting a good tune!!
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Ian Anderson
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If you do not have a log book then you wll need a SVA.
If you have the log book from the Rangie then you will be able to prove the engine age or they will do a current emissions test on it and you will need cats etc. Or you can go through the Landrove Club and get a certified certificate ststing when the engine was manufactured.
That said SVS is a pain in the arse but not insurmountable and if we can get GT40's through an historic car should be a doddle - unless it has sharp edges and those are difficult to get around. (GT40 we just sanded the fiverglass away!)
Buy the manual or download a copy and take time to read it! It lays everything out in detail.
Copy of manual here
http://www.gt40s.com/forum/builder-log- ... SVA+manual
Then go for the test 5 hours or thereabouts and EXPECT to fail - the men from the ministry have to fail you to prove they have done their job
Then you get given a list of fail points and go away and "fix" them - book a retest and this is all they are allowed to look at!
You get the pass and go to DVLA office and register it - they will also want to inspect the car in case you have 2 the same and are trying to pull a fast one!
All is possible but can be painful
Ian
If you have the log book from the Rangie then you will be able to prove the engine age or they will do a current emissions test on it and you will need cats etc. Or you can go through the Landrove Club and get a certified certificate ststing when the engine was manufactured.
That said SVS is a pain in the arse but not insurmountable and if we can get GT40's through an historic car should be a doddle - unless it has sharp edges and those are difficult to get around. (GT40 we just sanded the fiverglass away!)
Buy the manual or download a copy and take time to read it! It lays everything out in detail.
Copy of manual here
http://www.gt40s.com/forum/builder-log- ... SVA+manual
Then go for the test 5 hours or thereabouts and EXPECT to fail - the men from the ministry have to fail you to prove they have done their job
Then you get given a list of fail points and go away and "fix" them - book a retest and this is all they are allowed to look at!
You get the pass and go to DVLA office and register it - they will also want to inspect the car in case you have 2 the same and are trying to pull a fast one!
All is possible but can be painful
Ian
Owner of an "On the Road" GT40 Replica by DAX powered by 3.9Hotwre Efi, worked over by DJ Motors. EFi Working but still does some kangaroo at low revs (Damn the speed limits) In to paint shop 18/03/08.
Wheelie, you need to visit the NSRA nsra.org.uk/forum and read the stickies there. Also there's some rod-related SVA info on uk-hotrods.co.uk.
When you've had a read put a msg up or PM Kev Rooney (Kapri on NSRA) for advice.
If the 34s already been registered though, you can get a V5 from DVLA for £19 ? At least that was the case when I bought a car without a cert a yr or 2 back.
Technically if the chassis is modded then it should require SVA, if they spot it. If it's on a stock chassis then probably not. Plenty of rods running round without SVA (nearly all of them) so don't worry too much about that. Have a chat with Kev R.
Is the engine a runner, have you heard/seen it? Does it come with ancillaries? If not there's plenty of cheap Rovers out there for less. Mate bought one complete, with box, for £70, said to be a sound runner but not seen running.
When you've had a read put a msg up or PM Kev Rooney (Kapri on NSRA) for advice.
If the 34s already been registered though, you can get a V5 from DVLA for £19 ? At least that was the case when I bought a car without a cert a yr or 2 back.
Technically if the chassis is modded then it should require SVA, if they spot it. If it's on a stock chassis then probably not. Plenty of rods running round without SVA (nearly all of them) so don't worry too much about that. Have a chat with Kev R.
Is the engine a runner, have you heard/seen it? Does it come with ancillaries? If not there's plenty of cheap Rovers out there for less. Mate bought one complete, with box, for £70, said to be a sound runner but not seen running.
Wheelie if you're there ... Engine plus heads £50, 2x overhauled SUs on manifold £75:
http://www.rodandclassicmart.co.uk/partsforsale.htm
http://www.rodandclassicmart.co.uk/partsforsale.htm
