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DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:33 pm

Think I've sorted out where I'm going to permanently mount the coils on my SD1, so time to sort out the EDIS loom properly.

I've ordered up the correct wire colours from VWP to match those on the EDIS8, but would like to use new terminals at the coil ends as these dismantle easily, and the 'tails' on both my secondhand ones are for the four cylinder, colour wise. I'm a bit fussy about things like this, and dislike jointed wires unless there really is no option.

I know you can buy the complete connectors new - but I'm an Aberdonian.
So does anyone know the make and part number etc of the actual terminals?
They look to be Tyco, but only a guess.

I'll also need some 8mm HT lead to make up a couple of longer leads than the ones I have.

JSF55 · Post by **JSF55** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:55 pm

http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... usings.php
Are these of any help ?

bobtail84 · Post by **bobtail84** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:23 pm

DaveEFI wrote:Think I've sorted out where I'm going to permanently mount the coils on my SD1, so time to sort out the EDIS loom properly.

I know you can buy the complete connectors new - but I'm an Aberdonian.
So does anyone know the make and part number etc of the actual terminals?

Dave,
you have another PM...

Jeff

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:07 pm

JSF55 wrote:http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... usings.php
Are these of any help ?

Sadly not. I have the VWP cat. imprinted on my brain.

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:06 am

Hi
This guy has been very helpfull to me in the past
http://www.premierwiring.co.uk/
and these chaps seem to stock all sorts of connectors
http://www.s-v-c.co.uk/
and you could always try car builder solutions
http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/
Best regards
Mike

Eliot · Post by **Eliot** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:51 am

I removed the existing pins, removed as much wire as possible then soldered the new wires on:
http://www.mez.co.uk/dcam/DSCF1261.JPG
I didn't think getting hold of new pins was going to be particulary easy.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:16 pm

Here's a pic of the terminals:-

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:21 pm

Eliot wrote:I removed the existing pins, removed as much wire as possible then soldered the new wires on:
http://www.mez.co.uk/dcam/DSCF1261.JPG
I didn't think getting hold of new pins was going to be particulary easy.

Yes - but I'll try first. I don't like soldered connections where there is likely to be flexing.

The EDIS ECU plug was ok - decent length tails, so I'm happy to splice there. The coil ones had been cut off pretty tight.

daxtojeiro · Post by **daxtojeiro** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:39 pm

Dave,
I can supply the new connectrs for the Ford coil packs if you want some (although I dont advertise them as I tend to do them in kits with new coil packs, etc) and I do the stepper plugs too:
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Misc_products.htm#step

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:18 pm

daxtojeiro wrote:Dave,
I can supply the new connectrs for the Ford coil packs if you want some (although I dont advertise them as I tend to do them in kits with new coil packs, etc) and I do the stepper plugs too:
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Misc_products.htm#step

Is that the complete connectors or just the terminals? It's just the latter I need (x6) being a cheapskate.

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:23 pm

For a proper job, you need the appropriate crimp tool too.

I would agree with soldering being a bad idea, unless you independently strain-relieve the wire (by supporting the PVC sheath properly).

Chris.

daxtojeiro · Post by **daxtojeiro** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:23 pm

DaveEFI wrote:
daxtojeiro wrote:Dave,
I can supply the new connectrs for the Ford coil packs if you want some (although I dont advertise them as I tend to do them in kits with new coil packs, etc) and I do the stepper plugs too:
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Misc_products.htm#step
Is that the complete connectors or just the terminals? It's just the latter I need (x6) being a cheapskate.

Hi Dave,
I have the connectors and pins, but I dont sell them seperately Im afraid. You can buy them seperately though, but just not from me

You can solder directly to the crimps, I tend to squash them a little and then solder them. They are inside the plastic plug so they wont flex,
Phil

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:17 pm

ChrisJC wrote:For a proper job, you need the appropriate crimp tool too.

I would agree with soldering being a bad idea, unless you independently strain-relieve the wire (by supporting the PVC sheath properly).

Chris.

I've probably got the correct crimp tool - but a decent one for ordinary spade connectors look like it would be fine for these. If I ever can find them.

I've been through the Tyco site and they don't seem to be made by them AMP or Molex.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:04 pm

Another thing is confusing me. This is a diagram of the UK Ford coils I have with the plug numbers as per its label :-

but the MegaManual says coil A is on the right when viewed like this.

Eliot · Post by **Eliot** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:20 pm

DaveEFI wrote:
Eliot wrote:I removed the existing pins, removed as much wire as possible then soldered the new wires on:
http://www.mez.co.uk/dcam/DSCF1261.JPG
I didn't think getting hold of new pins was going to be particulary easy.
Yes - but I'll try first. I don't like soldered connections where there is likely to be flexing.

The EDIS ECU plug was ok - decent length tails, so I'm happy to splice there. The coil ones had been cut off pretty tight.

The coilpack ones are mini-timer type terminals IIRC(i.e. same as fuel injector connectors). Get them from http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/V ... usings.php
Although they dont look the same, I'm sure that's what I used.

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