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Lucas 'OPUS' dizzy

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:02 pm
by chalky
First off Hi to all from a noobie! Hope you can help.. I'm building a trike with an SD1 V8, it has the 35de8 opus ('opeless..) dizzy. Unfortunately the guy who supplied engine forgot to give me the amplifier & I've only just found that it needs one! He remembers that it's a bulkhead or inner wing mounted one about the size & shape of a motorcycle CDI unit but that's it! the rest of the car has long since been scrapped :( the only ones I've found are the units that mount on the dizzy or on the coil, can't afford to go the alternative aftermarket route! Any ideas on other options & how to wire it up? Thanks muchly in advance :D

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:19 pm
by ChrisJC
I would get a later unit from a Range Rover, with amp-on-distributor, and with the coil to go with it. Then it's simply a case of wiring IGN +ve to the coil +ve and amp, and connecting coil -ve with the amp.

Chris.

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:38 pm
by jrv8
Hi ,
It's not an external amp that you need for the OPUS system , it's a ballast resistor block.
I have some secondhand ones in stock that have been tseted ok, if you're interested , please drop me a pm.
Regards
Jim

'opeless dizzy..

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:56 pm
by chalky
Cheers, I'll have to stick to the opus for the moment, trike's using up my funds quicker than a footballer's wife :wink: I'm pinning my hopes on Jim for the moment :nw

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:21 pm
by Darkspeed
Just connect it to a 12V dizzy with a good 12V feed and dont bother with the ballast pack.

Red to positive White.blk to negative

Andrew

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:03 pm
by chalky
tried wiring it up direct but no spark! might try again in morning but not holding my breath... I presume I can take the test socket out of the loop? also, is that a condenser attached to the side of the dizzy? certainly looks like one!

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:03 pm
by Darkspeed
Never had a test socket in the loop on any of mine and yep thats a condenser so check it.

Andy

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:09 pm
by jrv8
Darkspeed wrote:Just connect it to a 12V dizzy with a good 12V feed and dont bother with the ballast pack.

Red to positive White.blk to negative

Andrew
I wonder why Rover went to the trouble and expence of providing a ballast resistor in all their cars, if they could just have connected it up like that.
Maybe , just maybe, this is not a good idea.

Jim

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:49 pm
by Darkspeed
I could go into a long post about the introduction and the benefits of the ballasted low voltage ignition system but its well documented and easy to find elsewhere.

Suffice to say its a production car system for people starting cars with weak batteries on the coldest day of the year with lights on etc. etc.

Hell what do I know he may have electric windows a heated screen and a 400W stereo on the trike and need a low voltage system......



Andrew

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:43 pm
by chalky
I've decided to go the points route, don't need high performance in a trike that weighs under a ton :wink: it'll be easier to fix if it breaks down up the road as well! Thanks for your advice & help everyone, especially Jim the mad tractor builder! I'll try to put a photo on when I figure out how... computer illiterate? Me? :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:04 pm
by Pocket rocket
Pics of the ballast resistor unit and the OPUS wiring are in this thread

http://www.v8forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopi ... highlight=

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:29 am
by chalky
cheers for the link to pics but, luddite that Iam, I'm going for points, easier to fix at the side of the road :)

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:14 am
by ppyvabw
jrv8 wrote:
Darkspeed wrote:Just connect it to a 12V dizzy with a good 12V feed and dont bother with the ballast pack.

Red to positive White.blk to negative

Andrew
I wonder why Rover went to the trouble and expence of providing a ballast resistor in all their cars, if they could just have connected it up like that.
Maybe , just maybe, this is not a good idea.

Jim
:lol:. For the reasons already stated a ballasted system has benefits for starting with weak battery etc etc...gives the ignition a higher voltage kick when you start it by bypassing the resistor.

The only problem I can see with removing the ballast resistor is the coil will die quicker from having to much juice going through it. No other disadvantages than that. I have no idea how long it would last tho. I don't know much about the OE 'opeless' systems, but a non ballasted coil would fix that problem wouldn't it? Or is there electronics in the dizzy that might die from not having the resistor?

This is why I stick to points, it's bloody easier and the dual point dizzys are fine for performance if you keep them well maintained i used to find. :lol:

Eventually I got sick of adjusting the f***ers though. :lol:

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:19 pm
by chalky
:whs when I'm on my way to a bike rally with a slab or two of beer with my name on 'em, the last thing I want is to need Magnus Pike to explain why my dizzy is a spark-free zone... :mrgreen: as for the opeless dizzy, too many wires, too complex for me, electronics are fine when they work, my wagon' dash looks like blackpool some cold mornings, all flashy lights & gongs but nowt wrong! It is Italian though... :lol:

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:37 pm
by satancom
Darkspeed wrote:Just connect it to a 12V dizzy with a good 12V feed and dont bother with the ballast pack.

Red to positive White.blk to negative

Andrew
This is how I wired mine up as its all I had available.. Starts fine in the cold (big battery and no accessories). Has been reliable and not caused any issues.. Only done a 1000 miles in it so far and have a spare (well 2) coil in the back anyhow so not worried as they only cost about £5 each!

It works as this guy says with no ballast resistor etc :)