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harmonic Balancer

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:41 pm
by TVRleigh
Hi Is it ok to mount a trigger wheel to this, or would it move too much. or cause problems.

I'm only going to be running an alternator, and water pump no PAS.

So there will not be as much load as normal.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:10 pm
by katanaman
so long as its mounted on the inner part and doesn't touch the outer part it should be fine and is a common way to do it.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:32 pm
by TVRleigh
Well,

I was hoping I coul just mount it on the outer part.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:40 pm
by katanaman
to be honest you would have a hell of a job attaching it to the outer ring anyway. It should bolt onto where you would bolt the pulleys onto. You can get an idea from here http://trigger-wheels.com/store/ in the fitting guide section.

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:46 pm
by Eliot
There's a long thread over at PH on the grif section about trigger wheels.

Is yours a serp?

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:47 pm
by CastleMGBV8
Leigh.

Is it possible thsat you have the wrong size trigger wheel, Trigger Wheels have a Rover specific wheel with a pickup bracket that bolts onto the front cover.

Kevin.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:21 pm
by TVRleigh
It's a late serp P38 engine.

There are no bolt on pulleys just the one serp that's separated from the main part from a rubber bit.

see
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=025

Spoken to trigger wheels, and they don't do one, nor does anyone else Ive spoken too.

The plan was to just have a small ring with the teeth and bolt this to the outer ring. as this would then add less weight.

I think I have solved it now, Ive just cut a hole big enough to fit over the bit that joins front cover., and used the threads for the removal tool to fix it in place. and used counter sunk bolts.

Will post a wednesday.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:52 pm
by katanaman
these engines should be triggered of the flywheel standard but you probably aren't using a standard flywheel. Couple of choices, at the back there will be a heavy boss. You could get one made as a press fit onto that, early engines have an oil deflector plate there. Another choice is get one made up that is trapped under the pulley bolt, mounted to the front. Both of them you can index off the bolt hole that is there.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:39 pm
by TVRleigh
Ok got one cut and fitted.
Then trimmed on a lathe one fittled so it's all true, as was 1mm out from 1 side to the other.

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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:02 pm
by katanaman
fixed the pic links for you.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 1:49 am
by 4.6 MGBegun
Did you have to re-balance the harmonic balancer after you mounted the trigger wheel, and if so how did you balance it?

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:13 am
by katanaman
Technically yes you should do but if your engine isnt fully balanced anyway it will probably make little odds. Specialist equipment is needed so its not a DIY thing to do.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:57 am
by TVRleigh
I had the whole lot professionly balanced. and weight matched to 0.2g

Crank
Flywheel
Clutch Cover
Rods
Pistons
and the Harmonic balancer.

had to supply the shells and rings and timing gear. to get everything done perfect.

The weight was taken off the front and a few holes was made in the back.

He also said it may be best to add another 2 bolts as with only 2 It was viberating a little on high rev's